BlackBore Shotgun Choke Customer Feedback

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From: Alan R
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2012 9:50 PM
To: Mark at Blackborechokes dot com
Subject: Re: Your BlackBore Choke

Mark,
So I shot a sporting clays tournament today using only my light mod blackbore choke and shot an 87/100 and won D class and punched up a class.

Thanks again Mark

Alan

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On Mar 22, 2012, at 10:03 PM, "Mark at BlackBore Chokes dot COM" <Mark at Blackborechokes dot com> wrote:

> Alan,
> Wow! I thank you for letting me know how it performed for you and that you are so pleased with the performance! Tell your friends (after you out shoot them a few times, of course!)! And, your skills will get better because you know the choke is doing its job!
> Let me know if there is anything else I can do for you.
> Regards,
> Mark
>  
> From: Alan R
> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 9:11 PM
> To: Mark at Blackborechokes dot com
> Subject: Re: Your BlackBore Choke
>  
> Mark,
> I just tried my new Blackbore choke today at my range and oh good god does that thing hit hard!! Every time I shoot the thing strips the wad so well that it looks like its snowing around me. Thanks again for a great product!
>  
> Alan R
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 18, 2012, at 11:28 AM, "Mark at BlackBore Chokes dot COM" <Mark at Blackborechokes dot com> wrote:
>
>> Alan,
>> Thank you for the great comments! I really enjoy dealing with my customers and am always concerned that I get the right choke to the customer so they can enjoy a great product! The Beretta website devotes FIVE pages and more to trying to eliminate the confusion in what gun takes what choke! Oh, well, I guess that’s what makes things interesting, huh. As I said, I have a DT10 that takes the Optima, a 391 Urika that takes the Mobilchoke and have checked other 391’s that take the Optima or the Optima Plus!
>>  
>> I have the Optima in stock and will send it out tomorrow (Monday).
>>  
>> Thanks again and please let me know how you like the choke!
>>  
>> Regards,
>> Mark
>>  
>> From: Alan R
>> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 11:36 PM
>> To: Mark at Blackborechokes dot com
>> Subject: Re: Your BlackBore Choke
>>  
>> Hey Mark,
>>  
>> I have an al391 urika 2. It's really cool how much you care about your customers to follow up an order like this. I'm pretty sure my gun is threaded for optima chokes though. Thanks again for the concern!!
>>  
>> Alan Rush
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 17, 2012, at 10:20 PM, "Mark at BlackBore Chokes dot COM" <Mark at Blackborechokes dot com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Alan,
>>> I received your order for the BlackBore Beretta Optima Competition LMOD choke today. Thank you for the order.
>>>  
>>> Just to make sure we have it right, are you sure it is the Optima you need? I am sorry for questioning you about this, but I just don’t want to get it wrong and send you the wrong choke for your Beretta! I have a Beretta DT10 and it takes the Optima choke. The conical section that is inside the bore has the threads at the muzzle and the length of this section from the threads at the muzzle to the bottom is 2-3/4” long. What gun do you have?
>>>  
>>> Thanks again!
>>>  
>>> Regards,
>>> Mark Andry
>>> BlackBore Choke

From: Transtech Services Ltd
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 4:00 AM
To: Mark at Blackborechokes dot com
Subject: Re: Patterns

Mark,


No, I am not complaining at all, not in the slightest. I am the first person to say that if you don't point the thing in the right direction, it doesn't matter what the, gun, choke, cartridges, colour of your underwear is etc. or anything else is. And if I was relying on shooting to pay the bills, things would definitely be a bit lean round here.

As I said, I need to go to the plate again, soon and get serious about it, have a plan of what I want to "look at", and be rather more methodical about it and to keep some better records of the results. As for shooting a bit low, I must admit I was a bit "slap dash" about that session, it was mainly to get an idea of the pattern size, I need to do a bit more measuring of the distances and take a bit more note of my gun mount, and to be a bit more "natural" in my mount. It was done in a bit of rush and rather unstructured. One thing I will say for both the Blackbore and the Carlson's is that the patterns look nice and even, no holes anywhere. Anyway, I will let you know the results of my next session, Hopefully, in the next week or so.

Regards,

John.




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From: Mark at Blackborechokes dot com
To: Transtech Services Ltd
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 5:08 AM
Subject: Re: Patterns

John,
I really appreciate the pictures of the English countryside! Ireland doesn’t have anything on England on being beautifully green. Love the picture of the Last of the Summer Wire guys!

Well, as for the BlackBore choke, I am not sure if you are complaining about it or not so I won’t try to be presumptuous. I believe that you will “grow” into the choke and will come to appreciate the dense, consistent patterns. This is something that you will be able to count on each and every time you shoot so that you can concentrate on improving your skills. You have also answered your own question. When you are on, the target is destroyed with great authority (that is what you want). When you miss, you miss clean! That tells me that you are shooting behind the bird and you need to pick up the pace with your pass through. In other words, get out ahead or it!

Also, I know that you just have three patterns pictured, but there looks to be a possibility that you are tending to shoot slightly below the point of aim. If the distances go longer, the problem will be more exaggerated. One way to bring it up is to attach one of those 1/8” soft rubber pads on the stock for your cheek that will make the barrel come up a little. I was doing the same thing and this fix really helped me!

Let me know how it goes and good luck!

Regards,
Mark


From: Transtech Services Ltd
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 7:27 AM
To: Mark at Blackborechokes dot com
Subject: Patterns

Attn. Mr. Mark Andry,

Mark,

Well, yesterday was a nice day, a touch warm, sunny, no wind and the car started. I spent yesterday morning at the pattern plate.

Attached you will find a couple of photographs of the results. The distance was approximately 20 yards, and the width of the pattern plate is about 40 inches. Each pattern is of two shots. The cartridges used were Lyalvale Steel Competition, 70mm, 24 gram, plastic wads, size 8.5 English, speed is in the region of 1400/1500 fps. The Fibre wadded cartridge was a Lyalvale Express, English Sporter, 70 mm, 28gr, size 7.5 English, speed also about 1400 fps.  The Carlson's Choke is a Sporting Clays Extended, Ported, Cylinder. Both the Blackbore and the Carlson's measured at .729 of an inch, no discernable difference to the barrel dimension.

As you will see, the Blackbore patterns considerably tighter than the Carlson's, which, for skeet, I am afraid isn't quite what I am looking for. My suspicions from its first outing were proved correct, when it broke a bird, it just destroyed it, or it sailed of into the wild blue yonder complete. As with most things, when I got to the shooting ground, I found I had forgotten some things I decided were SO necessary before I went, so I didn't do too much patterning. I will go back again in the next couple of weeks and do some more and make more complete notes and use a bigger selection of chokes and cartridges. One thing it did show, was that the "perceived" ricochet danger of steel shot, for me, proved to be completely unfounded. As was stated in one of the articles I sent you, no more likely than with lead shot!! One thing I did notice about the Blackbore choke was that the wad didn't even make it to the pattern plate, sometimes you can see the wad nearly hit the bird. As soon as I have any more information I will let you know.

Just for interest, there are a couple of photos taken from our clubs shooting ground we go to on Sunday mornings. It is high in The Downs, close to Alfriston, also is a photo of the "Last of The Summer Wine" shooting team. Its a fifty bird English Sporting, with ABT available if you want to shoot it. Every fortnight its a different layout, and of course, some of us have to go to the pub to discuss the "kills and misses" of the morning in great detail, not that it does anything for the next shoot.

Regards,

John.